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August 12, and also inserting the words together with the fol- 
lowing-named vessels claiming Hawaiian register.   That refers 
to the registration, of a certain number of vessels which were in- 
corporated in the bill, which are named and the names of which 
I presented to the Senate when we considered the bill; but there 
seemed to be some confusion as to what ought to go in, and I 
asked to withdraw the amendment, and it was done.   The House 
put it in and the conferees agreed to it. 
Mr. BACON.   In this connection the Senator will remember 
that that was a provision which elicited considerable debate in 
the Senate, and after that debate it was the judgment of the Sen- 
ate that the ships should not be named as entitled to registration. 
In other words, the judgment of the Senate was that the question 
of registration should be determined by the class to which a ves- 
sel belonged, and it should not be designated and taken out of a 
class and given this special favor.   The judgment of the Senate 
was that the registration of those vessels should be limited to 
those which at a certain date were in the class named. 
Now, what I desire to ask the Senator is this: The Senator, of 
course, is familiar with the reasons which were given in the Sen- 
ate why the designation of particular ships as entitled to registra- 
tion was not favored by the Senate and why the Senate decided 
against it; and in order that I may be informed as to whether the 
change should be made, I should like the Senator to inform us as 
to the reasons -- 
Mr. CULLOM.   The Senator does not recollect the exact facts 
with reference to the matter as it occurred in the Senate.   I my- 
self introduced the amendment. 
Mr. BACON.   Yes; I remember. 
Mr. CULLOM.   It was given to me by a Senator, I think, and 
I supposed there would be no objection to it.   I introduced it in 
the Senate, and we bad scarcely began to consider it before, I 
think, my distinguished friend the Senator from South Dakota 
[Mr. PETTIGREW] proposed to insert the names of a large number 
of vessels about which nobody seemed to know anything except, 
perhaps, the Senator himself.   Bather than delay and indulge in 
a long discussion about it I withdrew the amendment.   That is 
the literal truth about it.   The Senate really did not consider this 
subject, except for a very few moments. 
Mr. BACON.   Is the Senator prepared to state now - my recol- 
lection having been refreshed - why these vessels named, which 
are admitted by this amendment to registration, should be admitted 
rather than other vessels? 
Mr. CULLOM.   The only reason I know is that as to these par- 
ticular vessels everyone said that while there was a little question 
about their being legally registered in Hawaii, because of the 
change of government in the meantime, yet they were in fact en- 
titled to registration, provided the government over there had had 
such an existence as to give registration at all; and so far as I was 
concerned as one of the conferees I allowed the provision to go in 
as it is reported. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   The Senator from Illinois made a remark 
a few moments ago, saying I wanted to add the names of a lot of 
other vessels. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I think the Senator did have a list of eight or 
ten, he said. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   I objected to adding the names of any 
vessels, and I read a list of those which had received Hawaiian 
register since our flag went up.   I protested against adding the 
names of any ships, and the Senator decidedly misrepresents me 
by any such statement. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I certainly did not mean to do so, if the Sena- 
tor objected. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   I objected to any being put in. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I remember the Senator had a list of ten vessels. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   I had a list from the records of Hawaii, 
showing that they had registered eight or ten ships, perhaps, after 
our flag went up there, as I believe, in violation of law, and I did 
not think it ought to be ratified by our act.   It was a lawless act 
on their part, and it ought not to be ratified on our part.   I ob- 
jected to adding any names and giving registration in this man- 
ner.   I want that distinctly understood. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I did not remember that the Senator made any 
objection, but thought that he wanted more ships added. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   I did object to those that were in and to 
the adding of anymore.   A year ago I defeated a separate bill 
brought in here to give those ships a register by refusing to con- 
sent to its consideration.   I do not believe this amendment ought 
to be ratified to give an American register to any such vessels. 
Mr. CULLOM.   Of course I do not desire to misrepresent the 
Senator from South Dakota.   I was merely stating in his presence 
what my recollection was.   If he says that he first objected to all 
of them, I withdraw it, of course. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   I do not say I first objected to all of them. 
I say I objected at all times to all of them, and I simply read an 
additional list to show what they were doing over there. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I remember when the Senator began to read

the long list I concluded to withdraw the amendment, and did so 
in order to get rid of the subject. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   And they are all put back in conference? 
Mr. CULLOM.   The list of five are put back in conference. 
Mr. PETTIGREW.   So my protest, by showing an additional 
list, succeeded in knocking it out in the Senate and preventing a 
discussion of this question; and then they are put back in con- 
ference. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I withdrew the amendment without any refer- 
ence to the question of the merits of the case, because I did not 
want at that time to delay the bill by a long discussion as to what 
vessels were entitled to registration and what were not. 
Section 99 remains in the bill reported by the conferees sub- 
stantially as in the Senate bill, except a different use of language 
meaning the same thing. 
Mr. TILLMAN.   Before We pass from section 99, I see there is 
an amendment here which limits or rather puts off for a year our 
coasting laws.   Why is that? 
Mr. CULLOM.   That was put in in the House and withdrawn 
by the conferees. 
Mr. TILLMAN.   But it is in yet. 
Mr. CULLOM.   No; it is not.   I have said to the Senator sev- 
eral times that the amendments of the conferees to the House bill 
are not in this print, because the Senators desired to see just what 
the difference was between the House and the Senate, and not be- 
tween the Senate and the conferees. 
Mr. TILLMAN.   I have the wrong bill.   It is pretty hard to 
keep these babies from getting mixed up.   It is very difficult to 
tell what is the conference report and what was passed by the 
House. 
Mr. CULLOM.   If the Senator would follow it closely he would 
find out.   
Mr. TILLMAN.   I am trying to follow it closely. 
Mr. CULLOM.   Section 101 was amended by the insertion of 
an amendment providing that "all Chinese and other Asiatics 
who came or were brought into Hawaii since August 12, 1898, 
under contract, etc., shall depart therefrom and from the United 
States within one year from the date of the taking effect of this 
act."   That amendment was stricken out down to the proviso 
after the word "acts," in the last part of the paragraph, and the 
balance of the section remains in the bill reported by the conferees. 
Sections 101 and 103 were not amended by the House. 
One hundred and four, the last section of the bill, was amended 
by striking out "thirty" and inserting "sixty" by the House, but 
the conferees struck out "sixty" and inserted "forty-five."   In 
the second line of the section as appears in the conference bill the 
words "excepting only as to section 53, relating to appropriations, 
which shall take effect upon such approval," were inserted and 
agreed to by the conferees.   There was a mistake in the first con- 
ference report.   It referred to a section of the bill as 53 when it 
ought to have been 53.   That is all there was of that. 
Mr. President, I desire to make a few general remarks, and then 
I propose to take my seat. 
Mr. BACON.   If the Senator will pardon me before he begins 
the general discussion, I was unavoidably out of the Chamber 
when one amendment was passed about which I wished to ask 
some questions.   It may have been stated by the Senator, but I 
notice that there is an amendment here by which Hawaii is made 
a separate district and attached to the Ninth judicial circuit. 
Mr. CULLOM.   That is the bill verbatim et literatim as it 
passed the Senate, I think. 
Mr. BACON.   It is in italics here. 
Mr. CULLOM.   Yes, but it is -- 
Mr. BACON.   If I recollect aright, the Senator from Wisconsin 
succeeded when that was before the Senate in having it changed. 
The Senator from Wisconsin took the position and argued it with 
great earnestness upon authority that it would be an unconstitu- 
tional court; that we had no right to establish a constitutional 
court outside of the organized territory of States. 
Mr. CULLOM.   The Senator will remember that after quite a 
discussion by himself and several other Senators, the provision as 
it was in the original Senate bill was amended so as to make it a 
legislative court in the estimation of the Senator from Wisconsin 
and the Senator from Colorado and the Senator himself, as well as 
the Senator from Connecticut.   The House bill had the original 
provision in it as it was reported to the Senate, and it passed in 
that way, but the conferees insisted upon restoring the provision 
as it passed the Senate of the United States, and that was done. 
Mr. BACON.   I beg the Senator's pardon.   1 was misled by the 
printed copy of the bill as it came from the House. 
Mr. CULLOM.   I understand. 
Mr. BACON.   I supposed that was the status of the bill, but 
the statement of the Senator, of course, shows I am in error. 
Mr. CULLOM.   The Senator will find by looking at the confer- 
ence report that the Senate provision was restored. 
Mr. BACON.   The Senator will see how it was that I made the 
mistake.

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