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2325 continue in the trade. If they fail to get American registers they are wiped out of that trade, there are so many vessels displaced, and that makes the scarcity of vessels still greater. Mr. SPOONER. Will the Senator from Minnesota allow me to ask him a question? Mr. NELSON. Certainly. Mr. SPOONER. Are these vessels which would have received American registers in any event, or under any circumstances, but for the Hawaiian annexation resolution? Mr. NELSON. How? Mr. SPOONER. Are these vessels which could have been ad- mitted or which would have been admitted by Congress to Ameri- can registers had it not been for the Hawaiian annexation resolution? Mr. NELSON. They could not have been admitted under our laws, but they were entitled to admission under the Hawaiian laws. Mr. SPOONER. Then they come in under cover of the Ha- waiian annexation or the action of the government there? Mr. NELSON. They come in just as vessels come in that were admitted to Hawaiian registry before annexation. Under their laws foreign-built vessels could be admitted to Hawaiian register. Mr. BACON. These are vessels which have not been admitted? Mr. NELSON. They have been admitted to Hawaiian registry, but not to ours. Mr. BACON. All of them? Mr. NELSON. They are vessels which have been admitted to Hawaiian registry. If Hawaii were a republic to-day, an inde- pendent government as it was before, they would be Hawaiian vessels and entitled to consideration as such. Mr. CHILTON. Does the Attorney-General hold that the regis- tration is valid. Mr. NELSON. The Attorney-General, in his recent opinion, held otherwise, but the supreme court of Hawaii, in a case that came up involving this question, decided that they had a right to license them, and that that system continued until Congress passed legislation. Mr. CULLOM. If the Senator will allow me, this provision of the bill reads as follows: That all vessels carrying Hawaiian registers, on the 12th day of August, 1898, shall be entitled to be registered as American vessels, with the benefits and privileges appertaining thereto. Mr. BACON. Why do we not stand on that? Mr. CULLOM. I supposed when the Senator called my atten- tion to the amendment that there was a little pride of feeling on the part of the owners that this list should be named, as it cov- ered, as was stated to me, all vessels that were to be benefited, and that they desired the names of the vessels specifically stated in the bill. Supposing that was all there was to it, I consented to let it take the place of the section as I have read it. Mr. PETTIGREW. That is not the situation, I think. These vessels are vessels that would be shut out by the bill as it stands, because they received Hawaiian registers after annexation, and our Attorney-General decided that they could not grant such reg- isters. Therefore they will be shut out from American registers unless they are named or some later date fixed in the bill. Now, there are ten more that have applied over there. Perhaps they have issued registers to the other ten. How do we know? Why have they not an equitable case? If we bring in these seven, four of which were admitted to Hawaiian register previous to January, 1899, and the rest of which have been admitted since, why have they not an equitable case, and can they not come here and almost compel us to give registers to the whole flock? How many more will be registered when they find out what we have been doing? Mr. CULLOM. I am inclined to stand on the original section in view of the developments here. Mr. PETTIGREW. I hope the Senator will. Mr. CULLOM. I withdraw the amendment, if I may be allowed to do so. Mr. TELLER. I should like to ask somebody who knows what will become of these vessels? Where did they come from? Where were they registered? What flag were they flying before they were registered? Mr. FRYE. They will be obliged to go into business somewhere else. I found that they were registering ships in the Hawaiian Islands m order to get them under the American flag when Hawaii should be admitted. I wrote to the president and called his attention to it and to a decision of the court in the Hawaiian Islands, which held that they had the right to register these ves- sels. I think notice was given to the authorities in the Hawaiian Islands that they could not admit any more of those vessels to Hawaiian register. Therefore Hawaii stopped admitting them to Hawaiian register. Now, between the date fixed in the bill, 1898, and the time that that proclamation was issued or that conclusion was arrived at there were four or five or six vessels that had been admitted to Hawaiian registers under the authority of the court of the Ha- waiian Islands, and our committee concluded, that being the case and they being vessels engaged in the sugar trade and peculiarly fitted for it and new vessels, that it was just as well to extend this provision to them. Indeed, there was no really good reason given why it should not be extended to them. I think the vessels that the Senator from South Dakota is talking about are vessels that never have been admitted to Hawaiian register. Mr. PETTIGREW. I will state that 1 gave the names of seven or eight vessels that had been admitted, and there are nine or tan others that have applied for admission. I will say further that previous to the passage of the resolution annexing Hawaii the law of Hawaii required that a vessel should be owned by a citizen of Hawaii in order to get a Hawaiian register, and the Southern Pacific Railroad took, for instance, the China, one of the largest ships in their whole line, down there and made a bill of sale to an impecunious Hawaiian; and under that bill of sale to a man who could not buy one of the bolts in the ship, and everybody knew it, the vessel was admitted to Hawaiian register. The supreme court, which has been so much boasted of here, great lawyers that they are, decided, in the face of these facts, knowing that this fellow could not buy a fraction of the ship, that it was valid and that the vessel could be admitted as a vessel which was owned by this Hawaiian. It was Huntington's ship. They not only admitted this, but three or four more vessels, because they felt that annexa- tion was a sure thing and when they came in they would get American registers, which would be worth thousands of dollars to foreign-built vessels. Since annexation these sugar planters have admitted six or seven more vessels to Hawaiian registry, and now they want the Con- gress of the United States to ratify that. The supreme court over there has already. Our Attorney-General has said that it is not valid; and there are nine or ten more that have applied. Who knows but what they have got Hawaiian registers by this time, and next winter they will be in here for American registers. Of course it is a valuable concession. It is a valuable franchise. I can not, for my part, see any justice in admitting any of them. Mr. FRYE. There is rather an interesting incident connected with the admission of the China, which, as the Senator from South Dakota says, was one of the largest ships in the service and one of the best. The Government was in great distress - - Mr. PETTIGREW. I understand that. We gave it a register. Mr. FRYE. The Government was in great distress for vessels. The supply seemed to have come to an end, and the Secretary of War sent for me one day and wished to know, I having had some- thing to do with ships, whether there was any possibility of their finding any more ships anywhere. I asked him what he had done with the Pacific Mail; if he had taken any of their ships. I told him that there was the China, which I understood had been ad- mitted to Hawaiian register, which could carry more troops than any other vessel that they had found anywhere. The Secretary of War said they had been trying to find Hunt- ington; that nobody else in the Pacific Mail Company seemed to have any authority to give consent. They had been trying to find him in order to get this ship. I ascertained that he was on a train somewhere between New York and California, and they finally reached him by a telegram on the train. He telegraphed back yes: that the Government could have anything he had that was required for service in the war, and that the Government could adjust the prices to suit themselves. Mr. PETTIGREW. I should like to ask just one question. Did he not make as a condition the admission of the China to an American register? Mr. FRYE. No. She had been admitted to Hawaiian register. Mr. PETTIGREW. I know; but we had to admit her. We passed an act of Congress admitting her to American registry, and he made that a condition. Mr. FRYE. No; he did not make it as a condition. Mr. PETTIGREW. Why did we do it. then? Mr. FRYE. Because the Secretary of War wanted her admitted to American registry so that she could fly the American flag wher- ever she went. Mr. PETTIGREW. We admitted her to American registry. We passed an act of Congress to do it. Mr. FRYE. We reported in favor of admitting her. Mr. PETTIGREW. I am glad he had patriotism enough not to impose that as a condition, and I am very much pleased with the philanthropic generosity of the committee, which granted such a privilege without it being asked for. Mr. TELLER. I have been one of those who for many years have insisted that the ships flying our flag should be built in this country, but gradually I have seen from time to time Congress admit to registry, under some pretense or another, ships not built in this country. I have seen the carrying trade passing out of the